Taming of the Shrewd – A Recap of Teen Wolf’s “Echo House”

let me out big

let me in

stiles upward looking

Welcome to Eichen House, Werebangers!  It’s like Hogwarts for the severely mentally disturbed (and those possessed by evil fox spirits).   Speaking of Hogwarts, remember when Ginny was possessed by Lord Voldemort!  She and Nogitsu-Stiles could have totally bonded back then!

eichen house

 

Eichen House is a fun and magical place, which offers its residents a variety of recreational activities . . .

hanging three

 

“I thought you were supposed to bounce back up when bungee jumping?”

Five-star cuisine . . .

the bug

 

“Tastes like chicken?”

A professional and friendly staff, who is ready and willing to cater to your every need .  . .

gonna get you

 

stab

 

And the accommodations?  Talk about luxurious!

oliver

So leave your personal possessions in a baggy with the orderly at the front desk (We don’t allow shoelaces here.), and stay a while.  Because this Teen Wolf recap is literally a trip to the nuthouse . . .

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[As always, special thanks to Andre, who is the Alfred Hitchcock of screencaps, basically.]

The importance of being Stiles’ Pillow

Say what you will about the Nogitsune, but he is definitely no slacker.  If mind manipulation was MY modus operandi, and Beacon Hills was MY playground, Stiles would probably be at the bottom of my list of potential victims.  Why?  Because he’s a smart guy!  He’d un-Jedi my mind tricks, decipher my cheesy riddles, and block my mental chess game advances, like it was his job, because, basically it IS his job on the Scooby Crew.

ep 6 youryodai will be gravytrain

 

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I’d choose to mind f*&k someone a bit . . . dimmer . . .

no idea what im doing

Simpler-minded . . .

ephemeral

Less complex . . .

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I’d probably choose SCOTT, I WOULD DEFINITELY CHOOSE SCOTT one of the Alpha Twins, or something.

lets put our heads together

 

“Which one of us should get the brain, this time?”

But the Nogitsune is a smart guy too.  One who clearly likes a challenge.  And when it came taming his chosen host into total submission, he did it night by playing on Stiles’ mind, which, admittedly, is a steel trap.  He did it by playing on his heart, which is loyal, intensely protective of friends and family, and extremely vulnerable to the sexual wiles of pretty supernatural girls.  Stiles’ heart is a pile of mushy goo, more or less.

stiles sad 1

They say nice guys finish last.  But, in this case, nice guys get Nogitsuned!  Sorry Stiles!  But hey, look on the bright side, at least you got to get laid first . . .

more dancing stiles

As usual, I’m getting ahead of myself here.  Let’s travel back in time a few hours, to when Stiles had awakened from his poison-induced nap, after almost killing Scott.  Our hero/villain then, presumably ran home to Papa, and promptly told him it was high time he got committed into an insane asylum.  Papa reluctantly agreed, probably because Eichen House got such great reviews on Yelp!

i dont like this

Father and son ride into the night toward Stiles’ new Wackadoodle Castle.

dad thinks one

“Looks pretty swanky.  I wonder if this is covered by the Beacon Hills PD health insurance plan?”

And because there “ain’t no party, like a loony lockdown party,” Scott pulls up on his bike just in time.

trust scott

Though Stiles has apparently convinced his father to let him do this, by reassuring him that the lockdown would only be temporary . . . just enough time for Papa Stilinski to drive to LA to see a brain specialist, without having to worry about having a fox-possessed serial killer riding next to him in the passenger seat, he promptly offers his bestie the real deal.

never get out

“Make sure I never get out,” the Teen whispers insistently to his Alpha pal.

Because that’s what friends and family do for one another, right?  They lock themselves inside insane asylums, so that they don’t accidentally eviscerate the ones they love, while under the control of evil Ancient Japanese Spirits, with a penchant for wrapping their faces in toilet paper . . .

nogitsune teeth

Inside the asylum, Papa Stilinski has a mini freakout over Stiles’ having forgotten to pack his pillow on his trip to the Gates of Hell.

forgetting

“But I even used your favorite Fabric Softener the last time I washed it!”

no sleep

But really, he just does not want to say goodbye to his Baby Boy.  *sniffle*

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Just Hanging Out . . .

Stiles first begin to question his choice of living arrangements, upon learning that Eichen House’s “No shoelaces,” rule may very well be the metaphorical  equivalent of putting a bandaid on an amputated leg . . .

hanging self 1

 

hanging self

He had no shoelaces, so he hung himself with bedsheets!  Very clever!

eli says happy birthday

Of course, no public wackadoodle hanging would be complete without a riddle.  And the soon-to-be-dead guy’s got a doozy for you.  Ready?

nodding oh yeah

“What’s part of a bird that’s not in the sky.  It can swim upon water, but still remain dry.”

angry bird

Get it?  It’s a SHADOW!

take off shadow

 

ep 9 obviously stiles

Come on Nogitsune!  Stop giving us riddles with the same answer.  Not only is it annoying, but it makes it way easier for us to cheat . . .

trademark scott face

 

“Wait . . . I think I got the answer to this one . . . it’s wings, right?  The answer is totally wings!”

Speaking of cheating, Stiles is immediately ready to break the no phone calls for the first 72 hours rule.  But Nurse Ratched isn’t having it.  She threatens to chain Stiles to his bed, if he doesn’t behave.

nurse ratched

 

Speaking of misbehavers, check out Stiles’ new roomie!

another oliver

 

hi stiles

All things considered, Oliver seems like a pretty nice guy.  He shares our hero’s penchant for nerdy facts!

another oliver again

“Most suicides happen on Mondays!”

a third oliver

“This place has a lot of echoes.  That’s why they call it the “Echo House.”

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“Did you know the human head weighs 8 pounds?”  (Just kidding.  He never said that one.)

In another life, I imagine Oliver could have gone to Beacon Hills High and been an unofficial member of Scott’s pack . . .

drlling

. . . at least until he went into a homicidal rage, and started murdering his classmates with a buzzsaw he stole from woodshop . . .

By way of conversation, Oliver notes that he’s swallowed a bug.  Normally, that would just be a disgusting side note.  But it’s actually pretty important to the plot later.

You know that scene in Mean Girls where Lizzy Caplan’s character tells Lindsay Lohan’s character about all the different “tribes” of High School . . .

Well, Oliver sort of does that for Stiles at Eichen House.  Unfortunately, it seems like Eichen House only has one tribe . . . People Who Think they are Jesus . . .

jesus one

 

jesus 2

Imagine all those Jesuses sitting at the same long lunch table.  I wonder what that would look like?

last supper

Also in Eichen House, People Who Have Imaginary Conversations with Non-Working Phones.

you cant sit with us

Now, in Beacon Hills High, Stiles might not exactly have been considered popular.  But surrounded by nutjobs like these, he’s total Prom King Material.  So, of course, he wants to hang with the hot coyote chick whose life he saved right?  Together, these two could RULE the Insane Asylum . . .

my queen

 

“My queen!”

my fist

“My fist!”

punching

Then again, maybe not . . .

that all went a lot better in my head

 

hate coyot

But hey, at least Stiles has an in with a member of the faculty.  Check it out.  It’s Ms. Morell, also known as the Woman Who Every Single Female Job in Beacon Hills, except for Hospital Nurse, because Mama McCall got to that one first . . .

picture of the wolf

While recovering from having his lights punched out by a girl, Stiles gets a glimpse of the Eichen House basement and recalls it as the place he probably was trapped during “Riddled,” even though everybody but Lydia thought he was in Malia’s old coyote den . . .

basement

 

memoris

 

aliceinwonderland

 

Curiouser and curiouser . . .

Fun with Flags Scrolls

This is what happens to the Scooby Gang, when they lose Stiles as their voice of reason.  Instead of relying on the internet for research like normal teenagers would (and should), these goons decide to revert back to children’s books . . . oh, and ancient rolls of paper, that may or may not be the property of Japanese Mafia hitmen.

pretty paper

 

“These are some really expensive paper towels.”

For reasons I can’t quite understand, this crack team decides that the best way to get access to this ancient scroll is to rob an armored car containing police evidence taken off of the body of a dead guy?   Huh?

stiles in strife

 

“Why are my friends so stupid?”

Might I suggest a good old fashioned Google search for the term “Nogitsune exorcisms.”  Sure, it’s not nearly as exciting, but it’s also not a FIRST CLASS FELONY!

internet derek 2

In Which Everybody Threatens to Kill Stiles

Poor Stiles!  A good portion of this episode is spent on people plotting his untimely demise.  First there’s Papa Argent, who fondly tells Derek about this one time, at Hunter Camp, when he murdered a kid who turned into an evil bear, and how he’d gladly do the same thing to Nogitsu-Stiles, if he had the chance.  Back at the Nuthouse, Ms. Morell tells Stiles that the rash on his body represents the poison that’s keeping him un-Nogitsuned.  And that when it disappears, he’ll be evil again, so she can kill him.

a lot like death

By way of apology for death threats, Ms. Morell gives Stiles a bottle of Speed, so he can keep from sleeping.

have some drugs

 

or ill give you other drugs

 

“Are you going to take the blue pill, or the red pill, Stiles?”

The adults on this show really are spectacular role models, aren’t they?

Animal Instincts

While popping pills in the boys room, Stiles has another run-in with Malia.

hallucinating

 

“Well, I guess it’s better to hallucinate naked chicks than guys with toilet paper wrapped around their head.”

 

But this time, the interaction is slightly more pleasant . . . probably, because she’s a hot naked girl, and he’s a hormonally-charged teenage boy.  Also Stiles and Malia both have something the other wants (and they rhyme with weenis and wagina).  Stiles wants Malia to help him to get the keys to the basement, so he can figure out why the Nogitsune dream-trapped him in there.  Malia wants intel from Stiles’ wolf pack, about how she can turn back into a coyote permanently, and never suffer the ignominy of having breasts again .   . .

naked

 

cant get warm

It’s a match made in Insane Asylum Heaven .  . .

know who i am

After a clever ruse, during which Oliver beat the crap out of Malia, while shouting at the top of his lungs.  “They are not going to drill holes in my head.”  (FORESHADOWING?), Stiles finally gets those keys.

fighting

 

key pass

 

teen wolf allison argent stiles

But then the Evil Orderly Catches him confiscates his Speed, and shoots him up with Haldol, a SERIOUS downer drug that conks him right out.

why does everyone keep

 

“Can everyone please stop shoving needles up my ass?”

 

Good lord, there’s a lot of illegal drug use on this show!   Am I watching Season 3B of Teen Wolf, or Requiem for a Dream 2: Electric Boogaloo?

Give me the Finger!

So many mixed metaphors on this show.  First we find Stiles dreaming he’s trapped in a locker, trying to get out, while the Nogitsune, is screaming, “Let me in.”

teeth

OK, maybe that’s kind of an obvious metaphor.  But hey, at least it’s not another riddle with Shadow as the answer.  The Nogitsune’s sense of humor is improving, even if his fashion sense and dental hygiene aren’t.

Back at the armored car robbery, Scott demands that Mafioso Kitashe (sp?) give him the finger, when what he really means is . . .

finger

Give him the finger . . .

Yeah, Scott has always sort of been a bit of a literalist.

more funny

 

“I’ve got it!  The answer is shadow!”

Anyway, big Mafioso werewolf ends up limping away while little kid werewolves abscond with the finger, even though it totally seemed like he could kick their asses, with both his hands and one of his legs tied behind his back.

ooh

Maybe he just didn’t really want to get fingered badly enough . . .

huh

 

angry

Back in jail, that Mom chick who tortured Derek and Peter in the first episode of the season, pays Papa Argent a visit, reminds him of his loyalty to the hunter code, and makes some oblique references to his daughter.

talk dirty

Basically, all of this is foreshadowing the moment when Papa Argent learns the Nogitsune is inside his daughter, and he has to decide whether or not to kill it, just as aggressively as he threatened to kill Nogitsu-Stiles.

Honestly, I have no idea what the f*&k she’s talking about.  Maybe she should go back to speaking in Spanish.  She was much more interesting then . . .

frumpy mom

La Loba . . . El Bano.

Meanwhile, back in Crazy Town . . .

Let’s Do it Like They Do on the Discovery Channel   . . .

Malia rescues Stiles from lockdown, and the new buds somehow find their way into the precious basement, where Toilet Paper head’s body is quietly decomposing, while carrying a mysterious picture of someone Stiles apparently recognizes.

my trusty bat

 

“How did I get my bat back?”

hes not cute

“I”m glad you and I are going to bone soon.  Otherwise, I may have ended up having to seduce that guy.”

picture

“Why does the Nogitsune have a picture of President Obama in his pocket?”

In addition to being a crypt for Evil Dead People with a penchant for toilet paper and old photographs, the basement is also where Eichen House apparently keeps all its records about how they used to drill holes in people’s heads.  (Does nobody use computers on this show anymore?)

brain

Rock on, Stiles.  It’s once again time to get your Nerd on!

stiles dancing at gay bar melchiors

Malia, whose entire sexual history up to this point consists of lifting her leg on rocks and humping trees, apparently finds people with holes in their head a huge turn-on.

talking

Other turn ons for Malia?  Dingy insane asylum basements, crude medical experiments on mentally ill people, ugly baby dolls formerly belonging to the little sister you ate . . .

hungry

(Different strokes for different folks, I guess.)

yumm

 

kiss

What’s a girl to do?  I know!  You should totally have sex with the virgin with a hole in his brain!

sex me now

 

sexing

Wham, Bam, Thank you, Nogitsune!  Next thing you know, the half-possessed by a fox boy is doing it with a were coyote to sexy emo music, and it’s kind of hot.  (So much pretty on one television screen!).

hand porn one

 

hand porn two

 

hand porn three

 

But also kind of cheap, in a way.  Like Stiles has been hanging on to his virginity all this time, just to lose it in pretty much the least romantic locale possible,  with a woman he barely knows, who once punched his lights out, in those fearful final moments before he may lose his identity for good.

crying stiles in hos

 

“You are totally killing my sex buzz!”

Then again, it’s also kind of realistic.  Not everyone’s first time can be picture perfect, you know . . .

winky stiles

Or . .  . maybe this is all just a dream, and young Stiles will live to first screw again, for real this time!

stiles with wolf hat

Anyway, let’s get a better look, shall we?

You know what would be hotter though?  If they did it to This Song  . . .

Even better news?  Stiles’ ugly body rash is going away . . .

backne

 

improved backne

 

stiles approves

Oh wait . . . that means he’s going to be possessed again soon . . . nevermind.

stiles and dad

Back at home, Dr. Deaton reads the teeny tiny paper that Scott and co, for which Scott and co. committed a first class felony.  And it tells them . . .  pretty much nothing.

this is silly

“It just says Shadow.”

Actually, it instructs them to expel the Nogitsune by changing the body of its host.  And we all know what that means . . . it’s time to hit the gym Stiles!  You need to bulk up . . .

dylan growl

. . . or turn into a werewolf . . . or put the Nogitsune back in its decrepit body in the basement of Eichen House where it belongs . . .Whatever . . .

The Trouble with Eating Bugs

Did you know that the average human swallows as many as twelve bugs a year, while they are sleeping?

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Kind of makes us all a bit like that bug-eating Renfield guy from Dracula right?

But I bet you never before worried that swallowing a bug in your sleep would turn you into the mindless zombie slave of an evil Japanese spirit, who will force you to willingly try to dig holes in the heads of hot people, who recently lost their virginity to one another?

et tu olive

 

“Et tu Oliver?”

sucks for m

“That depends, does et tu mean, I’ve been turned evil and will drill a hole in the brain of you and/or your new lover?  If so, then yes.”

Now, you will!

Thanks Teen Wolf, for adding another to my already long list of Irrational Fears Involving Gross Bugs . . .

stiles alphabet 1 allisonargents

 

stiles alphabet2 allisonargents

Long story short, Stiles gives up control of his body to save the pretty little head of the girl he just boned.   And so, Nogitsu-Stiles awakens just in time to give the camera, his signature Sexy Evil Smile to the camera, just moments before the end-credits role.

tied up

 

crying

But wait, there’s more!

Look who has just escaped the nut house in hopes of becoming the Scooby Gang’s newest member?

blue eyes

Watch out, Lydia!  The race to get in Stiles’ pants just got a bit more crowded . . .

sterek comfort

 

lyd screams

Next time on Teen Wolf . . . Chaos!

See ya then, Werebangers!

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12 responses to “Taming of the Shrewd – A Recap of Teen Wolf’s “Echo House”

  1. Andre

    Well, in comparison this was a pretty good episode, but sadly you really have to ask yourself what the writers are thinking every so often.

    Eichen House is a fun and magical place, which offers its residents a variety of recreational activities . . .
    And apparently with pretty shitty security if suicides happen so often.
    But anyway, this time the title of the episode actually fit. The locale is prominent and the metaphorical element (you could say the nogitsune is basically the echo of his former self) is there as well. It’s not like with “Silver finger.”

    I’d probably choose SCOTT, I WOULD DEFINITELY CHOOSE SCOTT
    But remember, he is the star of the show. He is the born leader, the great Latino star, whom we are all supposed to look up to…. Yeah I couldn’t possibly say this with a straight face. Not after this episode. But we will get to that when the time is right.

    He did it by playing on his heart, which is loyal, intensely protective of friends and family, and extremely vulnerable to the sexual wiles of pretty supernatural girls. Stiles’ heart is a pile of mushy goo, more or less.
    No wonder, he had the most shit to deal with on this show. That is one of the many reasons why people like him best and why I will never understand why people think Jackson was interesting (no he was just a spoiled brat) or Scott is smart or a hero, or basically anything fans claim about him. But anyway, this part of Stiles’ personality they seemed to have kept. I just hope they don’t discard it the very next episode when it’s inconvenient for them again. You know like they had done with Stiles’ intelligence a lot over these last two seasons.

    Our hero/villain then, presumably ran home to Papa, and promptly told him it was high time he got committed into an insane asylum. Papa reluctantly agreed, probably because Eichen House got such great reviews on Yelp!
    The way I understood it they also went there because the sheriff used his detective skills to figure out that the asylum must be the source for all the crap. So… the Nemeton had nothing to do with it?
    Anyway, nice to see some people actually using brains here, even if they are just plot devices.

    Btw. Have you finally noticed which Teen Wolf cast member carries the stain of having played in a Mortal Kombat movie?

    Because that’s what friends and family do for one another, right? They lock themselves inside insane asylums, so that they don’t accidentally eviscerate the ones they love, while under the control of evil Ancient Japanese Spirits, with a penchant for wrapping their faces in toilet paper . . .
    Well for one trusting Scott to do something competent is nearly as bad as trusting Derek with it. But also, like I said in my comment to your last recap, it doesn’t look like a good idea to send a guy with a spirit that feeds on chaos into a mental institution. Creating chaos in such an environment, well the one they show here, seems pretty easy so basically you send this guy into an environment that is practically designated to give him strength. Or can he only feed on chaos and pain when he absorbs it from Scott? If yes how did he go along without him?
    And why does he wear the bandages again? Why not show him with Stiles’ face again?

    Btw. Julie you watch /watched the Vampire Diaries, shouldn’t you be used to much worse treatment of family members?

    But really, he just does not want to say goodbye to his Baby Boy. *sniffle*
    Well technically the whole plan seems rather edgy skedgy and who wants his possibly terminally ill son with a big bad spirit inside him in a mental institution?
    Btw. Are Papa Stilinski and Mrs. McCall the only good parents on this show?

    Of course, no public wackadoodle hanging would be complete without a riddle.
    More important, where did that guy get that rope? Or better enough bedsheets to make that rope? And if suicides happen so often shouldn’t they give them stuff that they cannot so easily kill themselves with and check them more often? After al,l this thing needs time to be prepared. Hours at least.
    Granted I did immediately get a “something is wrong here” vibe due to this. And did anybody fully understand what the guy was mumbling? I understood at best half of it.

    “What’s part of a bird that’s not in the sky. It can swim upon water, but still remain dry.”
    Well… technically it could be a feather fallen off that lands on water since many bird feathers are at first water repellent especially those of aquatic birds if prepared by the birds. And technically if the water is clear enough; the shadow is underwater so arguably wet. 😉

    “Wait . . . I think I got the answer to this one . . . it’s wings, right? The answer is totally wings!”
    Oh Scott, you are so stupid…. Wait, werewolves + stupid + half beast form mostly hairless and dark… where have I heard of that before?

    It must have been on Twilight:

    Come to think about it… shouldn’t she have hurt her fist there like in Eclipse?

    Speaking of misbehavers, check out Stiles’ new roomie!
    Aka check out the episode’s obvious henchmen. Come on, who here didn’t see that coming? 😀

    . . . at least until he went into a homicidal rage, and started murdering his classmates with a buzzsaw he stole from woodshop . . .
    So he would be like a regular resident of Beacon Hills?

    By way of conversation, Oliver notes that he’s swallowed a bug. Normally, that would just be a disgusting side note. But it’s actually pretty important to the plot later.
    Not really for me. It was kind of clear. And come to think of it, if the previous killer was from this asylum… how did he get out? Can’t remember right now. And shouldn’t there be some investigation in this place?

    “My fist!”
    You know I was thinking when I saw this: Typical, Stiles gets beaten up and the brunt of the wrath albeit Scott is “guilty” just as well but that will never be brought up. Stuff like this and the fact that Stiles is never angry about it makes me think that they apply the nerd stereotype here.

    It’s Ms. Morell, also known as the Woman Who Every Single Female Job in Beacon Hills
    Aka “Hello other Emily, I mean Emily, I mean Emily, I mean Morell”. You know Emily, I mean Morell, where have you been? Seriously, where has she been since episode 11 of last season? I know she is just the female magical negro of the show but you really have to ask yourself why stuff like this is never brought up. First Boyd and Erica, then Deucalion and now this.
    And as for this whole stuff about “keeping the balance”… when has anyone on this show ever done that?
    Plus: Writer! STOPP RIPPING OFF THE VAMPIRE DIARIES!!!

    While recovering from having his lights punched out by a girl
    You do realize that by that you basically say that girls are always weaker and so being punched by one is always humiliating? Despite the fact that this particular girl probably has super strength.

    Stiles gets a glimpse of the Eichen House basement and recalls it as the place he probably was trapped during “Riddled,” even though everybody but Lydia thought he was in Malia’s old coyote den . . .
    Well that is what you get when you have an antagonist that is actually smart. Let’s just hope he stays so.

    This is what happens to the Scooby Gang, when they lose Stiles as their voice of reason. Instead of relying on the internet for research like normal teenagers would (and should), these goons decide to revert back to children’s books . . . oh, and ancient rolls of paper, that may or may not be the property of Japanese Mafia hitmen.
    Well, I was a bit overwhelmed by the stupidity of Scott and the Jackson clones, but you are right, 100%. This is just dumb, in more reasons than one. Clearly having sex with werewolves reduced Allison’s and Lydia’s IQ.

    For reasons I can’t quite understand, this crack team decides that the best way to get access to this ancient scroll is to rob an armored car containing police evidence taken off of the body of a dead guy? Huh?
    They really are stupid. Couldn’t they have asked the sheriff for that?

    Might I suggest a good old fashioned Google search for the term “Nogitsune exorcisms.” Sure, it’s not nearly as exciting, but it’s also not a FIRST CLASS FELONY!
    The irony of the whole thing is that even the, quite lax, Wikipedia article on kitsune says this:
    Exorcism, often performed at an Inari shrine, may induce a fox to leave its host. In the past, when such gentle measures failed or a priest was not available, victims of kitsunetsuki were beaten or badly burned in hopes of forcing the fox to leave.
    So since there seems to be no Inari shrine in California they cannot go the subtle route, but based on this beating the shit out of someone actually would have solved something on this show. Just let Derek do it, he never had any scruples of abusing and hitting Stiles. Or as Sterek’s call it “showing his love.”

    Plus, when you think about it, based on what we saw here I think the “Nogitsune” would be more likely a ninko:
    For example, a ninko is an invisible fox spirit that human beings can only perceive when it possesses them.

    “Why are my friends so stupid?”
    Why indeed….

    First there’s Papa Argent, who fondly tells Derek about this one time, at Hunter Camp, when he murdered a kid who turned into an evil bear, and how he’d gladly do the same thing to Nogitsu-Stiles, if he had the chance.
    No, he said he would save Stiles, but kill the Nogitsune because he as to. But that is not the point of my comment on this, these are the two points:
    1) Astounding how good super-hearing works when it’s convenient for the plot.
    2) Where do these idiots get their info from?
    In the name of my forefathers: STOP!!!!
    Berserkers are not Germanic, they are a type of Norse warriors. You know “Norse”, aka people from Scandinavia. Are they too peaceful for American writers or what?
    The berserkers were Norse warriors who are primarily reported in the Old Norse literature to have fought in a nearly uncontrollable, trance-like fury, a characteristic which later gave rise to the English word berserk. Berserkers are attested to in numerous Old Norse sources. Most historians believe that berserkers worked themselves into a rage before battle, but some think that they might have consumed drugged foods.
    Actually a term associated with them is Úlfhéðnar, meaning wolf-pelts, that they wore wolf-pelts and not bears. Which would make a lot more sense, since bear pelts are fucking heavy!!! The wolf-pelts were also sometimes considered elite warriors of Odin. But whether the wolf-pelts and the berserkers were the same is disputed.
    I guess the writers have this shapeshifter stuff from some werewolf site were on average the authors don’t get anything right. You see to “go berserk” was to “hamask” which translates as “change form,” in this case, it means to “enter a state of wild fury” and one who could transform as a berserker was typically thought of as “hamrammr” or “shapestrong.” Berserkers were never attributed to actual shapeshifting. Nor with the old germanic people. Shapeshifting does occur prominently in old Norse mythology both by gods as well as magical humans but it had nothing to do with the berserkers, it was often rather a tool and not something that would overwhelm you, unless you were under a spell. Also in many cases you did not physically shift, but rather your soul manifested in animal form.
    There were germanic battle unites during the wars with the Romans that acted similar to the berserkers but they were known under other names. What the writers spew out has more to do with the game “Rome: Total War” than with history and folklore.

    By way of apology for death threats, Ms. Morell gives Stiles a bottle of Speed, so he can keep from sleeping.
    Well, you have the choice between a teenager on speed and a teenager possessed by a nogitsune so there wasn’t really that much of a choice. I rather wonder why she didn’t do some other stuff to secure the situation. After this she did nothing in the episode anymore. Her brother (remember that?) didn’t even seem to have contacted her. And btw. how did Mr. Argent knew about the white wolf and all?
    Btw. I am sure that was a dog.

    Malia wants intel from Stiles’ wolf pack, about how she can turn back into a coyote permanently, and never suffer the ignominy of having breasts again . . .
    You know there is the thing that this is slightly creepy. Since Malia turned into a coyote at age 10 I think and now she is 18, I think. So she basically missed puberty. Shouldn’t she be pretty awkward in her new body, and … well… socially and mentally retarded?

    Stiles finally gets those keys.
    Hm… Malia has been back to human for a few weeks only, where and when did she learn to steal like that? Oh right, plothole!!!

    “Can everyone please stop shoving needles up my ass?”
    Exactly Stiles, we all know what you really want up your ass:

    (don’t let yourself get fooled by the video title, this is actually a South Korean movie called White Night).

    And possibly also this:

    Yeah, Scott has always sort of been a bit of a literalist.
    And stupid. The scene of them “planning” with Scott’s dumb looks and the twin’s constant “attack” comments made me think:
    Wow they are dumb. Maybe Derek is not yet the winner for the race of dumbest werewolf this season like I thought last episode.

    Anyway, big Mafioso werewolf ends up limping away while little kid werewolves abscond with the finger, even though it totally seemed like he could kick their asses, with both his hands and one of his legs tied behind his back.
    Yeah that was really…. Seriously shouldn’t Scott and Allison be more capable? And shouldn’t Mary Sue Kira (who now basically went from the shy Asian girl stereotype to the Asian weapons master stereotype, the only thing missing is her doing Kung Fu) be a better help?
    Actually would she be an actual Kitsune this would have worked much better:
    Shift into a fox, bewitch the guard and possibly Kincaid, and open the door via telekinesis, as well as some other possible locks, and carry the finger away in your mouth. Nice and effective, plus NO ONE WOULD RECOGNIZE YOU!!!!
    Not only are Scott & Co dumb as a rock, but Kincaid as well. Correct me if I am mistaken but shouldn’t a police station even a temporary one like this at least have some surveillance equipment installed on their buildings and cars?

    PS. The chosen cap was great, Kincaid looks as dumb as he acted.

    Plus: Why is Scott so weak? He has a pack and even without one as an Alpha he should be more powerful to begin with. Peter didn’t had a pack in season 1 and look how strong he was.
    I thought we had the whole “problem” with the Alpha stuff already behind us?

    Plus 2.0: Scott lets him go. Well letting a mass murderer go didn’t backfire so this apparently wouldn’t either.

    Basically, all of this is foreshadowing the moment when Papa Argent learns the Nogitsune is inside his daughter, and he has to decide whether or not to kill it, just as aggressively as he threatened to kill Nogitsu-Stiles.
    You think the Nogitsune will inhabit her once he is out of Stiles?

    Honestly, I have no idea what the f*&k she’s talking about. Maybe she should go back to speaking in Spanish. She was much more interesting then . . .
    By lady, and thanks for being on the show to drive home the message that real Latinos and matriarchs like you are evil and fake Latinos and fake matriarchs like Scott and the Argents are good.
    See this stuff is one of the many reasons why I think Davis failed in his attempt to create an Utopia and fans only think this show is because they belief what he says. They rather think that Scott is “written white” or “passing for white” instead of acknowledging that this is an Anglo boy who simply isn’t pale. Or would you say that Kostja Ullmann is a Latino due to his skin tone?

    Or they claim that the Utopia is simply not always working, when it never did. I mean how can you say there is no racism or sexism in this show if since the start of 3a nearly every new addition to the show is a male of the same type of Colton Haynes and the female werewolves get no respect on this show? So my hopes for Malia aren’t high either. So far Stiles and the nogitsune are the only silver lining for me. At least they get something done here. It’s almost as if their plotline is written by someone else. I mean they currently drive the show. They have the best scenes, they even manage to get Scott to do some good stuff:

    and:

    and last but not least:

    Malia rescues Stiles from lockdown, and the new buds somehow find their way into the precious basement, where Toilet Paper head’s body is quietly decomposing, while carrying a mysterious picture of someone Stiles apparently recognizes.
    Is it the secret he knows about Scott’s father? And come to think of it, where is the douchebag currently anyway?
    Or … how old is Kira´s mother? I mean, what if she and the nogitsune (he apparently isn’t the same as fish mouth back in Japan) know each other from back in the days? I still don’t get how swords could have killed that one if he was possessing that Yakuza guy.

    “Why does the Nogitsune have a picture of President Obama in his pocket?”
    What????? I knew it, Oliver Stone is right:

    Malia, whose entire sexual history up to this point consists of lifting her leg on rocks and humping trees, apparently finds people with holes in their head a huge turn-on.
    Trust me, that is not the creepy stuff in this scene. 😉

    Wham, Bam, Thank you, Nogitsune! Next thing you know, the half-possessed by a fox boy is doing it with a were coyote to sexy emo music, and it’s kind of hot. (So much pretty on one television screen!).

    But also kind of cheap, in a way.

    Oh I am so gonna enjoy this:
    Julie. Malia had her full puberty in coyote form. So she never matured the way most people matured, especially in terms of sexuality. So basically Stiles is having sex with a 10 year old in an 18 year old body.
    Still so hot? 😀

    Plus: Hope that she doesn’t count as a werewolf and they did not do any vaginal sex or otherwise Stiles will now become dumb just like all the other people on this show who had sex with werewolves.
    And the whole thing seemed pretty rushed and out of nowhere if you ask me.

    And we all know what that means . . . it’s time to hit the gym Stiles! You need to bulk up . . . . . . or turn into a werewolf . . .
    I believe that when I see it.
    For the time you Stilers must make due with this:

    Btw. Where is the difference between bulking up and turning into a werewolf in case of guys on this show?

    Kind of makes us all a bit like that bug-eating Renfield guy from Dracula right?
    I am sure that was a movie reference since in the book Renfield doesn’t have that big of a role, he is barely more than extra.
    Also, a vampire reference? If someone on this show is drinking blood or sucking life energy I think we would have vampires on this show. After all we had werewolves, witches (ups “druids” of course) and ghosts. And pretty much everyone is doing them now and vampires are all that is missing.

    Look who has just escaped the nut house in hopes of becoming the Scooby Gang’s newest member?
    Why can she just walk out of there? Shouldn’t she be on lock-up?

    You know I think about Teen Wolf the way I think about Man of Steel now:
    I think it has a lot of good elements but it has so many stupid elements simply to get somewhere that it’s embarrassing in its stupidity.

    Well, 4 more episodes to go.

  2. I googled eating insects in sleep and saw that statistic on ask.com. When I clicked on the link, it claimed the study had cited that 8 of them were spiders. I happen to know that *that* is an urban legend. So I rather suspect we don’t eat any other bugs, either, following the reasoning why we don’t eat spiders in this article which was written by an actual professional rather than some random internet weirdo: http://insects.about.com/od/insectfolklore/qt/spiders-swallowed-while-asleep.htm
    Hope you can sleep more easily now.

  3. East Coast Captain

    This is written for teenagers, not the smartest bunch most of them are into the latest phone. If the concept of Teen Wolf was let’s say written for adults like us and placed in a network like Showtime or even indie distributors like Netflix with good writers who expect the audience to be smart people who will notice inconsistency and bad writing. Point is, Davis tries but unfortunately…

    The Underworld werewolf looks pretty badass. Say what you will about Scott but he looks awesome as a werewolf plus he’s the whole stereotype not enough brains too much brawn but at least he’s a nice guy right? 🙂

    Technically Andre they count as a were…

    I’m waiting for them to break their sacred rule on vampires. You know they will.

    • Andre

      Technically Andre they count as a were…
      So you think Stiles will get dumb now? Because apparently that is what happens when you have sex with one of them.

      I said it once and I say it again:
      Just because its for teenagers doesn’t mean you have to make it dumb. The 90s cartoon series Gargoyles was for younger teenagers, actually it was very popular for teens at an age when most would no longer watch cartoons because for how it was written:

      Another would be Dinosaurs, it was with puppets and I still remember it today. In fact seeing it now I notice the many messages ist has:

      So again, “for teens” is no reason for making it dumb. You can make it smart if you make it exciting and when it comes to that Teen Wolf is sadly not learning in the right direction. Visually it got better sure, but in the story department not really. First and foremost is the problem with the pacing. I excepted it as long as a season was only 12 episodes long, but now they had 24 and instead of making one season like they claimed, they packed 2 seasons into one. I plan to rewatch season 1 and 2 because I have the suspicion that a fundamental shift had occured afterwards. I mean look at Scott. Does this guy dress remotely blue collar anymore? He suddenly has enough money for the clothes and a bike? No way could a vet still pay him enough.
      And he surely isn’t getting any smarter.
      Not to mention that there is reason why I call season 3a and b the “Invasion of the Jackson clones.”

      In addition Teen Wolf started 3 years ago, or was it 4? Anyway, It is not a show you can just jump in, not really, and most of its viewers are therefore not teenagers anymore. Keeping it on the same intellectual level is therefore a pretty bad idea. Or they do it like The Vampire Diaries: not caring about internal consequences, and basically just rehashing the same stuff over and over so even the laziest viewers are not frightened away.

      The problem with Underworld werewolves is not their look but their idiocy. They are designated to loose and thereby the “conflict” is totally boring. I mean look at this anime:

      They shot and apparently hit nothing and are easily overcome. In addition they are aperfect example of the genre’s sexism since none of them transforms, while the males do it all the time.
      Plus the voice acting is pretty bad.
      And in terms of gender equality Teen Wolf is no better. A woman has to be thin, “sexy” and nothing else. At most she gets a pass when she is in evil mode but apart from that…
      That is why I was surprised that they let Cora have a werewolf face in normal mode. But she is gone now and Laura has been reduced to a total side note.
      My biggest problem with Teen Wolf is that its basically a let down in what Davis claimed it would be and its infuriating that many viewers are still so dumb/gullible that they don’t notice it.
      Not even the “we treat gay sex like straight sex” claim did he fulfill. Scott and Allison, as well as Dennifer got full front body and all. But what did we get for Dethan? This:

      Not good enough for me, I am used to this:

      And that is from a soap opera.
      I agree that they will probably break the vampire rule as well, which is again a pretty bad sign if Davis is that fast out of idea. So far he basically used what is popular and nothing else. The foxes and the “oni” are another example of this. And had Davis wanted to do the utopia he claimed to create the fox would have been a perfect tool, but not these.

  4. Anthony Cerbic

    1. > Why is Scott so weak?
    Well firstly, he is a teen still. Even though Kincaid is beta, he is a full grown male and a professional fighter / bodyguard / whatever badass too. So not only Kincaid is in his physical prime, he has an advantage of experience and extended training.

    Secondly, Scott, on the other hand, was promoted to Alpha just few months (?) ago. And he is not actively accepting his role, it seems. Do we see him solidifying his power base, actually BUILDING his pack into fighting force, or recruiting new members – the basic things, you know, the ones Derek did after taking red eyes? No. Instead Scott is letting everything slide on its own, having a more laid back attitude – “they are my friends, not subjects…”

    So, while he is alpha and have access to new tricks and alpha power, he is not tapping into being one. It was hard for him to come to terms with being a werewolf to begin with.

    2. About were-girls. We’ve seen plenty, and presumably Talia was crazy strong back in the days. As to why the disproportion between sexes, you must keep in mind that lycanthropy way of transmission is NOT primarily through childbirth – you don’t need to have sex to make new werewolves, your alpha can just bite people. So there is no reasonable justification for 50-50 boys/girls in a group. In fact, abundance of males makes sense for pack survival, with all due respect toward women rights, boys just make better warriors on average.

    3. > Malia had her full puberty in coyote form. So she never matured the way most people matured, especially in terms of sexuality. So basically Stiles is having sex with a 10 year old in an 18 year old body.

    But your conclusion is in contradiction with your premise. As my quick googling revealed, coyote in captivity can live up to 20 years. Which makes “coyote years” (cy) to human ones just like the “dog years” – approximately 1:4. So, she was 10 when turned (2.5 cy), she spent 8 years that way, so she was 2.5+8 = 10.5 cy before becoming human again. So she must be 10.5*4 = 42 human years of life in coyote form.

    She looks like a girl (for whatever reason – werewolf ageing quirks?), but she is an old experienced woman on the inside. For all we know, she might have had sex with wild coyotes and have litter all over local woods. Fuck, she might be as well a coyote granny! Is it possibly the reason she is so eager to get into furs again, to be with her real family?

    • Anthony Cerbic

      Oh fuck, one more moment I was going to address, but it totally slipped my mind.

      4. Gay sex scenes. ^_^ What is “fair representation”? If we take statistics of gays being about 7% of the population, then proportion of straight sex to gay sex is 13 to 1. And fair display of gay relationships would be giving it 13 times less time than to straight ones. So, in this light, Teen Wolf is a very much pro-gay show, as it goes way above 7%. Also, it should not be relevant to the argument, but for some people it does, so I will say it – I am gay myself, so don’t read any prejudice in my simple math above.

    • Andre

      Too bad for you, you just wasted time, after your last comment on last episode it was clear that you lack even the basic forms of respect, so I am not discussing anything with you anymore.

      • Anthony Cerbic

        Wow, dude, some serious steam out there. I am not trying to be coy here, but I literally don’t get what got you so pissed there. I just went to the last post and read your retort and I’m baffled – eyebrows raised and all.

        You are free to leave this comment unanswered if its how you feel, but I am obligated to clear my name and resolve this issue, or try at least.

        First, I don’t disrespect your opinions and don’t discard them, I am not sure where you drew such a conclusion from. On the contrary, I openly admitted, that you are entitled to have your believes, just as I am to mine and this is OK.

        Second, since there is no additional canon material to leverage on the topics we had covered, I simply stated that our respective positions won’t be changing in near future, so there’s just nothing to talk about – you showed me your point of view, I showed you mine and we both walked away a bit enriched and satisfied (or so I honestly thought).

        Third, the final sentences of my comment there were a conclusion, that despite our differences we have many things in common – such as this show, “Teen Wolf”, and our dedication to it, to the last episode, even if its cheesy not a “high art form” and discussing imaginary monsters trivia makes us geeks. I don’t get how anyone can be offended by this.

        I don’t know if you were in especially bad mood when you read my message or something else, but I certainly hope it was… um… ephemeral state and not a persistent feature of your character.

        Cheers!

      • Andre

        And the fact that you don’t even realize how disrespectful your comment starting with “sacrifice/shmacrifice” was is the problem. Do you honestly think you can use words like that and think people will believe that you respect their opinions?
        Now as for representation of female werewolves and gay sex.
        The question is not quantity but quality. Compare the female werewolves with the male ones, will you honestly tell me their representations are equal? Laura is dead, albeit being an Alpha apparently easily killed, Erica at most fought offscreen and basically used sex as a weapon, Cora was so dumb she tried to take on Ennis head on and on her own, Talia is just a ghost of the past and Kali was the only werewolf who actually fought and she was killed in an instant despite actually being fast enough to escape. Plus We only saw two werewolf faces and Erica’s was barely different from her human one. The males all have full on non-human faces, roar and draw claws all the time, show the faces nearly always (except for the twins) and actually fight.
        Plus all other female werewolves were untransformed and in the background. Typical for the werewolf genre. And would it kill them to have a female werewolf that actually looks like she could take a beating?

        Now gay sex:
        Compare the Dethan scene with the Dennifer scene, will you honestly tell me, that was on the same level?

  5. Anthony Cerbic

    Errr… I barely know what to say to that, Andre. I fully realise that I am waltzing on a mine field now, but I refuse to walk on eggshells around an elephant in the room, even risking to never to hear from you again. So, if you feel you will be offended by a total stranger’s honest-to-heart judgement, you stop reading right now, there is no need to strain yourself.

    Now that you clarified what hit your nerve I can’t help it but ask – do you really hold a depiction of a fake-druid fake-ritual in a teen drama as something sacred, a ‘holy cow’, so calling it (jokingly too, as part of a flirtatious tease) “a shmacrifice” is considered offensive? For real? Am I falling to a prank here? It is true I don’t take too serious “Teen Wolf” story and its characters, but the fact that I am allowing myself to joke about it is by no means translated to me mocking fans or their ideas. Pls tell me you are not one of “you said something less-than-glorious about my favourite and you will die for that” people.

    Wereladies to weremen comparison is shown to be just the same as ladies to men IRL. Men are in _general_ stronger, more militant and brutal. There are few girls who decide to join military and police forces, but considerably less than men. Its not because of “men oppression” or whatever, but because many of the ladies prefer to use their brains, not fists. Paint me an old timer, but I would rather NOT see a girl taking beating, even if she can regenerate from it.

    On a side note – what’s up with girls presumably having less wolfy faces than boys? No judging here (I’ve got plenty of my own fetishes), just curious – how do you even quantify this? Do you print screen and go about it with a ruler, anthropology style?
    (I hope your head did not explode just now. It was another tease, light hearted)

    I wouldn’t vouch about sex scene levels, they all are pretty cute and innocent to me. If you want to rally troops for sexual intensity equality, you should pick a show that is not PG-13 rated, I think. ^_^

    • Andre

      The problem is that you lacked the basic respect and so because you don’t agree with my arguments you just brushed them off and ridiculed them and that is what you did in your schmacrifice comment.
      I am not one of those “or die” people, but I demand respect and that is not what you did. You ridiculed my arguments and now you stand here and act as though you did nothing wrong.

      Wereladies to weremen comparison is shown to be just the same as ladies to men IRL.
      So? Davis claimed to create a show without sexism, so he should show it.

      Men are in _general_ stronger, more militant and brutal.
      Not in Teen Wolf, it was clearly established (when they bother to follow that rule) that female werewolves have the same bloodlust and rage as the men do.

      Its not because of “men oppression” or whatever, but because many of the ladies prefer to use their brains, not fists.
      When has any female werewolf in this show used her brains? Lara? She was barely there. Erica? As if. Laura? You are not seriously suggesting that do you? Kali? Not once.
      Plus “using brains not fists” is cultural, not biological. And “many” is not the same as always, but on Teen Wolf female werewolves always suck in that regard. Laura even let herself be killed by Peter despite her supposed to be stronger than him.

      Paint me an old timer, but I would rather NOT see a girl taking beating, even if she can regenerate from it.
      To me such things are sexist and hypocritical. After all what justification is there for this, since you seem to have no problems seeing that with boys? And also you don’t seem to have a problem seeing girls (btw. Kali was a woman not a girl) getting bitten, stabbed, shot at, electrocuted and killed via various means. All things happened on this show and all more serious. But them getting beaten is too much to you?

      No judging here (I’ve got plenty of my own fetishes), just curious – how do you even quantify this? Do you print screen and go about it with a ruler, anthropology style?
      Simply comparison of the human face and the non-human face. Cora was the only female werewolf that had a distinct non-human face, Erica’s was nearly identical to her human face, she only had some ridges around the nose and eyes. And that is very typical in the werewolf genre, which is why Davis’s “no sexism” claim was the one I expected not to be fulfilled since he doesn’t seem to realize how sexist it is.
      Or as they said in the thesis “HAIRY THUGGISH WOMEN” – FEMALE WEREWOLVES, GENDER, AND THE HOPED-FOR MONSTER (2008):
      The female werewolf embodies a kind of gendered border crossing: a female body expressing characteristics labeled both masculine and male by the dominant culture (power, strength, rage, aggression, violence, and body hair).

      The potential ambisexed/ambigendered embodiment of the female werewolf threatens to disrupt patriarchal gender binaries and hetero/sexist cultural expectations and assumptions about women’s bodies and behavior; it is in this way that it is “queer.” The werewolf girl is queer because she is woman/not-woman, female yet bursting the bounds of what we are told female should be. She is a violent plundering of duality.

      Although female werewolves abound in fantasy fiction, onscreen they have been relegated fairly strictly to horror. There is still an assumption that werewolves in film and television will be male and “coded in terms of excessive masculinity, as the visible extension of the aggressive potential contained within the body of the ordinary human male,” as well as marked with signs of more primitive and animal instincts (the lower classes and non-white races). But it is more than just the cultural taboo against women being violent that guides the assumption in pop culture that werewolves will be male. The idea of a female werewolf is transgressive in that it acknowledges aggressive potential in a female body, but also in that it shows the female body as hairy and muscled – in other words, as masculine.

      Female werewolves are queer in that they threaten a naturalized patriarchal heteronormativity and its dual roles of “man” and “woman.” Gender betrayers, they present as women should not, while simultaneously breaking down the categories of “men” and “women” all together.
      Forms of female masculinity threaten not only the idea of ‘natural’ femaleness, but also the idea of natural, male-bodied masculinity. As Halberstam writes, “The suppression of female masculinities allows for male masculinity to stand unchallenged as the bearer of gender stability and gender deviance.” The suppression of female masculinities and the presence of the female (ambisexed, unlivable) werewolf in pop culture are part of a Foucauldian regulation of female bodies into femininity and out of unacceptable ways of being/appearing.

      Aka, female werewolves portray features that are considered unacceptable for women/girls and as such they have to be on the margin, never be there for long. And that is exactly what happened on Teen Wolf, they are either gone quickly or barely more than tokens. In addition, unlike their male counterparts, they show no sign of being physically fit. And you cannot say this is due to differences in gender since that only applies to muscle mass, not muscle definition. Plus even a female body would show some muscle growth from constant exercise.
      Thereby Teen Wolf shoves its female characters into the narrowly constructed space of what is acceptable for female bodies and only rarely tries to break out of it. So rarely in fact that I think it’s just there for scoring points. Just like the LGBT topics.
      Once again, it’s not just quantity that is lacking but also quality.

      And as for the sex scene:
      In terms of Scott, Allison, Jennifer and Derek we got full on body shots, various positions, groping and intense kissing. And for Danny/Ethan we got lying in bed, some light kisses and talking. And with the two girls in season 3a it was even less, but they were extras anyway.
      See the difference? They are clearly not on the same level as if they do not dare to go further. And the question here is, why? Why not go a bit further? To not offend audiences? What person having problems with gay male sex would even watch Teen Wolf?

      • Anthony Cerbic

        Hey there, I am quite relieved this did not spiral into spitting contest, like many other argues on the Internet. Props to us both for maintaining civility!

        Now, you keep accusing me of being disrespectful, yet I don’t really see it being true, as you provide no criteria for such a ruling. I counter your claims and arguments with my own arguments and rhetoric and this is all normal back-and-forth exchanges every reasonable dispute supposed to be built of. So, if my way of verbalizing my position is too banterful, consider me being sorry for own mutual situation but not for my own way of doing stuff, as I am really a fuzzy furry kitten, on “average Internet” level. Would you be able to bear my awful manners for several more postings, so we won’t spent any more typing on this off-topic, as it apparently can’t be fixed anyway?

        Back to business.
        I don’t consider gender-specificity of occupations our society is expressing IRL as sexism. Not in the West world XXI century, at least. Of course, as it comes from a white male, I must have an unavoidable bias, but as far as I understand, as long as there is legal equality in opportunities and competitive market for jobs (so, the best person is hired for position, despite of genitals) – there is no sexism or oppression.

        I’ve had several similar discussions with my friends over years, and I am “apparently” a retrograde, who is blind to struggles of modern women. May be so. But for the sake of this argument, I hope the paragraph above explains why I don’t see sexism in the show – because I don’t see it being a thing IRL (in western society today, again).

        Next, I am unaware if these “free of sexism, etc” were made by producers. I am not much of “off-screen” follower, not a part of fandom. If you provide me with relevant links, I’d be thankful.

        Even if your proof of “female werewolves show more humanly faces than males” is nothing but ‘its obvious’ and ‘I feel so’ – i.e. no formal proof at all – I will accept it as being true, to save time. And then I will ask: “So what?”. From this observation you draw a pretty stretched conclusion that the show is stuck in chauvinistic hell and is all kinds of bigoted.

        My counterpoints here are:
        a. Its not about girls-boys agenda per se, its conformity to cultural codes. There is a set of rules one must abide for his creation to be adopted for broadcasting, funded and watched. Just look around and look at the screen – there is a vast difference between ‘screen humans’ and real ones. Look at the school population in the show – everyone is pretty. Everyone! Its no coincidence, but its no malignant plan either. Boys are muscular, girls are slim and everybody’s hair is perfect – absolutely not what I do remember from school days.

        If writers dropped cultural codes outright and went ‘creative’ – well, we might’ve had a masterpiece 1-2% of populous would truly appreciate, but most likely it would be a tentacle-filled “WTF”, that no channel is picking up for production.

        Cultural codes are there for a reason, they open easy communication channels, by providing “what expected”. Its writers’ duty to build their message on top of them. And taking in account target audience, its really hard to blame producers for going this route – teens who watch the show would rather see more eye-candy, than ‘real life’ people.

        So, in conclusion, were-babes (oh, no! was it disrespectful again?) take more ‘prettyfication’ and look less bestial, not because creators have some prejudice, but by a general drift towards “cute girls”. And excuse you me, the general population, as it happens, see hairy women less attractive than equally hairy men. If it is unfair to propagate such stereotypes, it has nothing to do with sexism – likewise most men won’t stand a chance when compared to what we see in the locker room in this show – even when “normal” humans are displayed.

        So far I’ve seen only 1 (one!) person who breaks the mold – Danielle – who is listed as ‘walk-on role winner’ by Wikipedia.

        b. In-universe explanation of less-facially deformed females would be a standard relation of unhuman looks to unhuman power. See http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BishonenLine for example. I’ve already touched why I think a werewolf woman would be weaker than otherwise equal werewolf man.

        To put it in numerical perspective, lets assume a woman is having “power” (in whatever terms, physical strength or other) of X and a man in comparison is having power of Y. So, X and Y. And say werewolf transformation is granting a power boost of factor N. BUT! How is this factor applied, additively or multiplicatively? It seems to me, general literature/cinematic trend would suggest multiplication for werewolves and addition for vampires – or so I reckon.

        This means, that vampires being turned are erasing gender differences (going from X and Y to 100+X and 100+Y), while werewolves maintain ‘power aspect’, since N*X to N*Y is the same as X to Y.

        Feel free to ignore my math, btw. I am using it for illustrative purposes to demonstrate a principal. It is tempting to explain females’ less facial transformation by malignancy or cowardice on part of Jeff Davis, but a simpler explanation is available. They look less weird, because they are weaker as werewolves (and stronger they are – the more grotesque we see), because they were weaker as humans (or however this works for born werewolves), because biology!

        If Jeff Davis is really having some prejudicial idea “all females must be pleasing to man’s eye” – he surely would not limit himself with wereladies. How come we have Jennifer, huh? Not only she is another bad-ass woman on the show (well, as much as the show allows for its villains) – she is quite unsightly when masks are dropped. Oh, wait, disregard that, she uses sex as a weapon and magical masking for disguise – she is totally oppressed by men and their expectations. She should’ve walked around all zombie looking, be spotted on and achieve nothing, but stand proudly outside of “narrowly constructed space of what is acceptable for female body”.

        c. I don’t get how “Hairy Thuggish Women” are connected to women liberation or sex equality at all, except for some really nasty misogynistic jokes by bullies. Really, you talk about distorted female faces on the show as if it is something we must strife for, as if ugly as fuck were-girl proves something. Why?

        If we take a street poll and ask people a question: “Assume a hypothetical situation – some people are affected by a decease that causes periodical bodily disfiguration and fits of rage, but females suffer milder effects. Do you think we must order our scientist to develop a treatment to make females just as vicious and ugly for sakes of equality?”. What do you think people answer to that? I’d wager not many would agree to the proposal.

        If I was not eloquent enough to relay my position, let me rephrase it: I believe ‘wolf-face’ is nothing fancy, so were-girls drew a winning hand in the show, not having as much of it.

        >After all what justification is there for this, since you seem to have no problems seeing that with boys? … But them getting beaten is too much to you?
        You drew this out of thin air. My lack of eagerness to see a girl beaten by no means indicates me liking her (or anybody else) being electrocuted, stabbed or whatever. How the fuck would you make this leap of logic? I limited my revulsion to “girl being beaten” only because you were the one who brought this suggested scenario up, even more so, announced it as desirable – to give the girl a chance to show some balls, figuratively.
        Please refrain from putting words I did not say into my mouth in the future, it is filthy enough without anybody’s assistance.

        Wow! I’ve produced a huge wall of text already, so I will be short on Danny/Ethan’s regrettable lack on groping. 😀

        The show is called ‘Teen Wolf’, and we know exactly which teen it is. So we see a lot of Scott/Alison and Scott/Kira. And Jennifer was a main villain of the season (balancing against a whole pack of alpha’s).
        If the show was named “Teen wolf’s almost pack member and one secondary character” your complains would be valid, otherwise – they are not. As much I’d personally desire for more Danny/Ethan, I recognise and accept that it would be unjustified by story telling dynamic.

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